hulugu
Dec 5, 01:10 PM
Indeed on first read, I'd say that he presents a convincing argument. I'll go along with his diagnosis that there's no hole that could open you up to arbitrary code execution. If that's your definition of a security hole, then it follows that there's no security hole there. But it's still leaving you open the possibility that the operating system may crash for no apparent reason, causing you to lose any unsaved work.
Lost work... Depending on how productive you are, that can easily result in monetary damage being done.
As I posted previously, that leaves you in no worse a situation than you always are if you're running a desktop computer without a UPS. But I think that it still warrants attention.
At best it still qualifies as an inconvenience, because the savvy user who saves her work regularly will only have lost 5 or 6 minutes of productivity including the reboot. At worst, it can result in hours of lost work for the user who doesn't understand the "save your work" mantra -- especially if we're talking about somebody who's protected by a battery backup and doesn't think that unexpected reboots should be possible on such an inherently stable operating system.
And it's undoubtedly a bug inside Apple's software that's causing this problem, therefore it is absolutely appropriate that Apple should be expected to fix it. I appreciate anybody's effort to bring such bugs to light, because that increases the probability that Apple will find out about it and fix it.
I'm saying Apple shouldn't fix it, I'm merely pointing out that many people are reacting to the MOKB as a wealth of major security flaws.
This is a bug, an annoying bug that should be fixed, but that's very different from a security flaw in which a crash can be used to inject malicious code. MOKB's author LMH was wrong about this particular instance and he did not do the research required of a security professional in this particular problem.
Again, don't dismiss the MOKB or the warnings from Secunia or F-Secure or even the demonstrations by Ellrich and Johnny Cache, instead we need to assess the problem as best we can.
I would say that you probably shouldn't be installing .dmgs while you're doing important work that hasn't been saved, that's just asking for trouble.
Lost work... Depending on how productive you are, that can easily result in monetary damage being done.
As I posted previously, that leaves you in no worse a situation than you always are if you're running a desktop computer without a UPS. But I think that it still warrants attention.
At best it still qualifies as an inconvenience, because the savvy user who saves her work regularly will only have lost 5 or 6 minutes of productivity including the reboot. At worst, it can result in hours of lost work for the user who doesn't understand the "save your work" mantra -- especially if we're talking about somebody who's protected by a battery backup and doesn't think that unexpected reboots should be possible on such an inherently stable operating system.
And it's undoubtedly a bug inside Apple's software that's causing this problem, therefore it is absolutely appropriate that Apple should be expected to fix it. I appreciate anybody's effort to bring such bugs to light, because that increases the probability that Apple will find out about it and fix it.
I'm saying Apple shouldn't fix it, I'm merely pointing out that many people are reacting to the MOKB as a wealth of major security flaws.
This is a bug, an annoying bug that should be fixed, but that's very different from a security flaw in which a crash can be used to inject malicious code. MOKB's author LMH was wrong about this particular instance and he did not do the research required of a security professional in this particular problem.
Again, don't dismiss the MOKB or the warnings from Secunia or F-Secure or even the demonstrations by Ellrich and Johnny Cache, instead we need to assess the problem as best we can.
I would say that you probably shouldn't be installing .dmgs while you're doing important work that hasn't been saved, that's just asking for trouble.
BJMRamage
May 3, 07:36 AM
nice!
Gotta tell my friend who is looking to buy an iMac.
Gotta tell my friend who is looking to buy an iMac.
saxofunk
Apr 22, 04:47 PM
Obviously, Joshua has never seen the internals of the iPhone 4. The camera has been progressively getting bigger since the 3G. The iPhone 4's camera is relatively huge and boxy. It couldn't possibly fit inside this design, which is why the iPod Touch has a much lower quality one. Unless the iPhone 5's camera is expected to be only for FaceTime (like iPod Touch and iPad 2) there is no way. I believe this is a major reason the iPhone 4 got a boxier design, to squeeze in as much as possible (read: battery) and keep the rear camera in the corner (since it couldn't fit behind the receiver speaker and/or front camera in the middle).
Plus the track record is poor. Joshua and Arn are just looking for hits.
Plus the track record is poor. Joshua and Arn are just looking for hits.
samcolak
Apr 22, 12:03 PM
Stop it please, you're hurting me... OpenStep is a specification of which GNUStep is a GPL licensed implementation released by the GNU project. Foundation and Cocoa are the NeXTSTEP acquired implementations that Apple is using.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Ok maybe you are drinking a bit too much coke, so calm down a little - I said the Bash was under the GPL license - this is correct. You are equally correct in saying its under GNU (i just clarified in saying GPL). My mistake in saying you were wrong.
2. I said the GNU was a project started in 1984 - we both agree on this.
3. The FSF (a foundation) was what GNU evolved into - we both agree on this.
4. Per Bash, i never said it wasnt part of GPL/GNU - it is - I agree.
5. OpenStep is the open source repository of NextStep - per GNUstep, couldnt care less.
My unix history is pretty clear but thanks for the heads up.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Ok maybe you are drinking a bit too much coke, so calm down a little - I said the Bash was under the GPL license - this is correct. You are equally correct in saying its under GNU (i just clarified in saying GPL). My mistake in saying you were wrong.
2. I said the GNU was a project started in 1984 - we both agree on this.
3. The FSF (a foundation) was what GNU evolved into - we both agree on this.
4. Per Bash, i never said it wasnt part of GPL/GNU - it is - I agree.
5. OpenStep is the open source repository of NextStep - per GNUstep, couldnt care less.
My unix history is pretty clear but thanks for the heads up.
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solvs
Jul 22, 12:37 AM
looks like he's love'n the bunny:D
No, that's this guy (http://www.lebonze.co.uk/playground/bunnylove.htm).
No, that's this guy (http://www.lebonze.co.uk/playground/bunnylove.htm).
Waybo
Apr 1, 09:59 PM
We were in Ft. Lauderdale, walking along I-95 when we spotted this breath of fresh air. Dear spouse had to put up with me when I insisted going back to get my camera. This was taken just 2 weeks ago, while we waited for our cruise. (Western Caribbean pictures will be coming!) A nice break from winter: today's snow storm dumped 8" of heavy snow in our yard!
Nikon D3100 w/ Tamron AF 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3
ISO 720, 18mm, .33ev, f/22, 1/60
Nikon D3100 w/ Tamron AF 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3
ISO 720, 18mm, .33ev, f/22, 1/60
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daneoni
Sep 12, 08:10 PM
Finally caved.
WildCowboy
Oct 18, 04:43 PM
Where are these figures?
Check the links at the top of the press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/oct/18results.html).
Check the links at the top of the press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/oct/18results.html).
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gnasher729
May 3, 08:13 AM
I think you're confusing TFT with TN.
They're not the same thing.
There are several kinds of TFT displays. TN displays are the cheapest and lowest quality kind of TFT displays; IPS displays are a more expensive and better kind of TFT display. The new iMacs have the better IPS kind of TFT displays.
And it is amazing how people get excited and angry for no good reason at all, just because they don't understand something and come to all the wrong conclusions.
They're not the same thing.
There are several kinds of TFT displays. TN displays are the cheapest and lowest quality kind of TFT displays; IPS displays are a more expensive and better kind of TFT display. The new iMacs have the better IPS kind of TFT displays.
And it is amazing how people get excited and angry for no good reason at all, just because they don't understand something and come to all the wrong conclusions.
psendeavor
Jul 24, 03:33 PM
Bah, these things are rubbish. The scroll wheel clogs up with dirt, just as scroll ball mice did in days gone by - except there is no user access to clean it thoroughly. Apple need to re-think the design on this one before updating it.
Yep, and me, I'm NOT coming back from my Logitech MX 1000 Laser. Mighty Mouse is only serving during those 30 or so min a week when the MX (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/features/opticaltopics/AR/EN,CRID=2090) is charging, and that's 30 min too long.
Yep, and me, I'm NOT coming back from my Logitech MX 1000 Laser. Mighty Mouse is only serving during those 30 or so min a week when the MX (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/features/opticaltopics/AR/EN,CRID=2090) is charging, and that's 30 min too long.
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Psilocybin
Apr 19, 03:26 PM
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But my point is that even if we get a 40% boost in our CPU, it is near useless.
For example, lets say you have 100/100 in a test. Having a theoretical 40% boost will give you a 140/100. I mean, thats cool. Overkill. That is currently the CPU we have. We have enough to accomplish our tasks, and any more would be an overkill in the things we need our computer to process.
On the other hand, on the GPU side, you have a 80/100 (which is what the NVIDIA 320m is) and we see a 30% performance drop, that will result to a 42.5/100. At lower levels, difference between a 80/100 and 42.5/100 is the difference between a pass and a fail.
Of course, having a better CPU might be fulfilling to you and might give you the sense that you are the "latest in tech," but seriously, it is not about the CPU any more, it is about SSDs, ergonomics, GPU, and ultimately, Software.
I had to finally register to comment on the hypocrisy in this and many other threads like it. Because some people want frame rates for gaming on an MBA, then your needs for GPU performance are valid, and others who don't game but could use CPU performance have invalid needs? Rubbish.
A perfect example is the above. So the C2D rates as a 100/100 for CPU performance and thus any improvement is useless? Really?! Nice to see that you framed the argument such that any improvement you don't see as needed is useless.
On Sunday I combined 6 or 8 short 720p video clips into a 7 minute video for YouTube with a simple title screen and transitions. It took the C2D ~40 minutes to process the video and save in a new format. So you're really going to argue that there is nothing to be gained from a significant bump in processor speed?
For me and many other potential MBA purchasers, a CPU bump from the media processing abilities of the Core i processors would be welcome, and GPU performance over and above the ability to play real-time HD video is useless. We shouldn't be saddled with an out-of-date processor or forced to subsidize "unnecessary" frame rate performance just to appease game-players. And that perspective is as valid as yours.
Uhm. Your Point is? Everyone has different wants and needs Also nobody said the processor upgrade is useless or "unwelcome". Some people want more fps when doing moderate gaming including myself and I definately won't be welcoming the intel hd into my house. I will be waiting for ivy bridge
But my point is that even if we get a 40% boost in our CPU, it is near useless.
For example, lets say you have 100/100 in a test. Having a theoretical 40% boost will give you a 140/100. I mean, thats cool. Overkill. That is currently the CPU we have. We have enough to accomplish our tasks, and any more would be an overkill in the things we need our computer to process.
On the other hand, on the GPU side, you have a 80/100 (which is what the NVIDIA 320m is) and we see a 30% performance drop, that will result to a 42.5/100. At lower levels, difference between a 80/100 and 42.5/100 is the difference between a pass and a fail.
Of course, having a better CPU might be fulfilling to you and might give you the sense that you are the "latest in tech," but seriously, it is not about the CPU any more, it is about SSDs, ergonomics, GPU, and ultimately, Software.
I had to finally register to comment on the hypocrisy in this and many other threads like it. Because some people want frame rates for gaming on an MBA, then your needs for GPU performance are valid, and others who don't game but could use CPU performance have invalid needs? Rubbish.
A perfect example is the above. So the C2D rates as a 100/100 for CPU performance and thus any improvement is useless? Really?! Nice to see that you framed the argument such that any improvement you don't see as needed is useless.
On Sunday I combined 6 or 8 short 720p video clips into a 7 minute video for YouTube with a simple title screen and transitions. It took the C2D ~40 minutes to process the video and save in a new format. So you're really going to argue that there is nothing to be gained from a significant bump in processor speed?
For me and many other potential MBA purchasers, a CPU bump from the media processing abilities of the Core i processors would be welcome, and GPU performance over and above the ability to play real-time HD video is useless. We shouldn't be saddled with an out-of-date processor or forced to subsidize "unnecessary" frame rate performance just to appease game-players. And that perspective is as valid as yours.
Uhm. Your Point is? Everyone has different wants and needs Also nobody said the processor upgrade is useless or "unwelcome". Some people want more fps when doing moderate gaming including myself and I definately won't be welcoming the intel hd into my house. I will be waiting for ivy bridge
Dubthedankest
Mar 15, 11:00 AM
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Looks like the show is over in Fashion Island folks
The four of us up front have vouchers - no more shipments today - no other iPads today :(
Glad you snagged one. So they only received a shipment of 5 iPads?
Looks like the show is over in Fashion Island folks
The four of us up front have vouchers - no more shipments today - no other iPads today :(
Glad you snagged one. So they only received a shipment of 5 iPads?
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Don Kosak
May 3, 07:54 AM
Update looks great, especially the new graphic card options.
I am disappointed that the SSD prices are the same as last year. US$600 for a 256GB SSD option. I was hoping for a big price reduction. (or at least a little price reduction...)
I am disappointed that the SSD prices are the same as last year. US$600 for a 256GB SSD option. I was hoping for a big price reduction. (or at least a little price reduction...)
SeanZy
Mar 16, 11:37 AM
Well at lease I will have one to trade at the Apple store once they get some more in...we shall see who has the last laugh.
I will be at the Brea Mall Satruday AM if anyone wants to trade or PM me.
But you still have to wait in line to exchange... So I don't know how having one to exchange is different from just paying cash? Except the fact you're down almost a 1000 dollars now with something you're not using.
I will be at the Brea Mall Satruday AM if anyone wants to trade or PM me.
But you still have to wait in line to exchange... So I don't know how having one to exchange is different from just paying cash? Except the fact you're down almost a 1000 dollars now with something you're not using.
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crackpip
Jul 24, 11:21 PM
Without the third party economy and proprietary ports, there is also little to keep the MS Menace at bay, despite the coolness of such a product.
Bottom Line: there WILL be a regular dock connector for the foreseeable future on all iPods except the shuffle (which is on it's way out).
While, I am skeptical of the no non-wireless interfaces. I have to disagree that Apple cares much about third-parties when designing their iPods. The dock connector has been pretty standard, but other characteristics have not. For example, the remote port, that used to be near the headphones. It was also used by FM transmitters and microphones and maybe more. The size of the iPods also keeps changing (the new 5G are a bit wider and thinner than the 4G) making any devices that the iPod "fits into" need to be retooled.
The bottom line is that if Apple sees merit in changing the interface (like removing the remote port to conserve space), it will do it regardless of effects to accessory manufacturers. They will adapt to the new designs.
crackpip
Bottom Line: there WILL be a regular dock connector for the foreseeable future on all iPods except the shuffle (which is on it's way out).
While, I am skeptical of the no non-wireless interfaces. I have to disagree that Apple cares much about third-parties when designing their iPods. The dock connector has been pretty standard, but other characteristics have not. For example, the remote port, that used to be near the headphones. It was also used by FM transmitters and microphones and maybe more. The size of the iPods also keeps changing (the new 5G are a bit wider and thinner than the 4G) making any devices that the iPod "fits into" need to be retooled.
The bottom line is that if Apple sees merit in changing the interface (like removing the remote port to conserve space), it will do it regardless of effects to accessory manufacturers. They will adapt to the new designs.
crackpip
Keebler
Dec 30, 09:59 PM
I'm going to just assume you are young and have time on your hands. Because when I was young and had time staying trim was quite easy., Let's talk when you're in your 30's and are a busy professional :rolleyes:
I used to think that too and I was completely wrong. I used 'being busy with work' as a poor excuse. I absolutely regret it.
He's right - it's a simple formula and one that really takes some discipline...that's all. Just a touch of strength.
I'll also add, some knowledge too. Talking to a trainer with a nutritionist background was critical to my success. Understanding what the body needs based on your activity level, rather than what your MIND believes your body wants, is a small, but massively important factor.
ie. on days I work out, I'll have my protein drink and a massive bowl of oatmeal - topped with a scoop of jam and/or peanut butter and some brown sugar. 1. it's got all the glucose I need after working out and 2. it satiates me until mid-afternoon and then I have a normal lunch. I could go on, but I don't want to drag it.
My point is this: I hear you, I was you, but it's wrong. plain and simple. I normally don't tell people they're wrong so pls don't take offense :)
i'm in my late 30s, 2 kids, the stay at home Dad running his own business and I'm in the best shape of my life. My wife is a financial planner running her own brokerage and she's in fantastic shape. If anything, being in better shape, eating right etc... has made my wife EVEN more successful. She has the energy, her mind is sharp and I believe it's because her 'engine' is running tip top. It's like having an old beat up car vs a new super engine cooled kick butt car - which one is going to go further and more efficiently? :)
That's not to toot my own horn, but to say, it is possible. It has to be a lifestyle change.
And hey, it's 2011 - time to make that change :)
Cheers,
keebler
I used to think that too and I was completely wrong. I used 'being busy with work' as a poor excuse. I absolutely regret it.
He's right - it's a simple formula and one that really takes some discipline...that's all. Just a touch of strength.
I'll also add, some knowledge too. Talking to a trainer with a nutritionist background was critical to my success. Understanding what the body needs based on your activity level, rather than what your MIND believes your body wants, is a small, but massively important factor.
ie. on days I work out, I'll have my protein drink and a massive bowl of oatmeal - topped with a scoop of jam and/or peanut butter and some brown sugar. 1. it's got all the glucose I need after working out and 2. it satiates me until mid-afternoon and then I have a normal lunch. I could go on, but I don't want to drag it.
My point is this: I hear you, I was you, but it's wrong. plain and simple. I normally don't tell people they're wrong so pls don't take offense :)
i'm in my late 30s, 2 kids, the stay at home Dad running his own business and I'm in the best shape of my life. My wife is a financial planner running her own brokerage and she's in fantastic shape. If anything, being in better shape, eating right etc... has made my wife EVEN more successful. She has the energy, her mind is sharp and I believe it's because her 'engine' is running tip top. It's like having an old beat up car vs a new super engine cooled kick butt car - which one is going to go further and more efficiently? :)
That's not to toot my own horn, but to say, it is possible. It has to be a lifestyle change.
And hey, it's 2011 - time to make that change :)
Cheers,
keebler
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monaarts
Apr 14, 02:24 AM
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I am going with either universal apps for iOS and Mac or appletv. Nothing else makes sense.
I am going with either universal apps for iOS and Mac or appletv. Nothing else makes sense.
SchneiderMan
Jan 31, 07:03 PM
What what....
http://www.pajiba.com/assets_c/2010/11/butters-thumb-260x235-16017.jpg
BAHAHAHA I say what what, in ma butt :p
http://www.pajiba.com/assets_c/2010/11/butters-thumb-260x235-16017.jpg
BAHAHAHA I say what what, in ma butt :p
appleguru1
Oct 24, 09:29 AM
Ordered the high end 15" er w/ a glossy screen :D
Finally!
Finally!
kirk26
Apr 15, 10:25 AM
Battery life is much better with this update. I stream Sirius radio all day and it lasts longer now. Haters gotta hate.
Blakjack
Apr 28, 11:02 AM
Anyone else find these stories on market share to be completely boring?!?
-Kevin
Insanely Boring
They can always try.
Please can we have some rumors abour iOS5 maybe?
Thats what Im waiting on also. Usually rumors would have been all over the place by now. All we are getting is cloud romors.
-Kevin
Insanely Boring
They can always try.
Please can we have some rumors abour iOS5 maybe?
Thats what Im waiting on also. Usually rumors would have been all over the place by now. All we are getting is cloud romors.
Rad99004
May 3, 11:43 PM
I wonder why they've moved it to a later date?
I would guess part of the reason is the "White" Iphone was just released and they are hoping they can unload them all.
All I can say the new one better have a 4" screen, 8Meg Camera, More memory, IOS 5 and a faster processor. What else did I miss :)
Edit: added 4G to wish list
This is almost the standard specification for most Android phones any more so I don't think I'm asking for too much.
I would guess part of the reason is the "White" Iphone was just released and they are hoping they can unload them all.
All I can say the new one better have a 4" screen, 8Meg Camera, More memory, IOS 5 and a faster processor. What else did I miss :)
Edit: added 4G to wish list
This is almost the standard specification for most Android phones any more so I don't think I'm asking for too much.
yac_moda
Jul 12, 06:02 PM
1 WORDS !!!
Foam Aluminum nannoMackiBooky :eek:
http://www.metcomb.com/products.html
http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=12210
"Metcomb's foam is approximately 70% to 85% lighter than solid aluminum. Metcomb says typical parts would have a dense aluminum skin."
Foam Aluminum nannoMackiBooky :eek:
http://www.metcomb.com/products.html
http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=12210
"Metcomb's foam is approximately 70% to 85% lighter than solid aluminum. Metcomb says typical parts would have a dense aluminum skin."
NismoRoadster
Mar 17, 11:18 AM
I think so coast got about 15 too. Rent a cop told us loiterers to leave
Was the door already open or did u wait next to the Nordstroms area? I will probably try to go very early tomorrow and show up to work late.
Was the door already open or did u wait next to the Nordstroms area? I will probably try to go very early tomorrow and show up to work late.
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